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Karen Sadoff wrote:

Hi, guys —

I live in a small town (under 10,000 people) and we recently have seen a new church come in called Holy Trinity Old Catholic church.

It has three web sites; I went to one: [Website hidden.] and under their history web page is a discourse that makes it sound like the church is Catholic and that it can trace its roots all the way back to St. Peter. In our Bible study class, we haven't got the knowledge to disagree and show them when the initial break happened.

It would be appreciated if you could go through the historical points of interest on this matter.

Thank you for your time and effort.

Karen S.

  { Can you tell me the historical points of interest of when the Old Catholic church broke from Rome? }

John replied:

Hi, Karen —

Well, there is no reason to disagree because they are right.

Old Catholics have valid Apostolic Succession and, like the Eastern Orthodox, can trace their bishops back to the Apostles. They are however in schism. They split from the Roman Church at the First Vatican Council. They rejected the Council's definition of the Papal Infallibility and so they split. Of course, now they are ordaining women. Clearly those ordinations are not valid,
so they are in danger of losing Apostolic Succession should they ever decide to try and consecrate female bishops.

As I said, they can trace their roots back to Peter, in that their Bishops are still validly ordained and they came from us, much like the Orthodox in the East.

All these groups maintained valid Holy Orders, valid Apostolic Succession, and the seven valid Sacraments. They are not, however, in full communion with the Roman Catholic Church; they are schismatic.

John

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